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#141 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 25. Januar 2021 - 20:30

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Heute gab es gleich zwei Announcements:

 

Einmal für EDH:

 

 

2021 January Update
 

CARDS

 

No changes.

 

RULES

 

Clarified Rule 11.

 

Parts of abilities which bring other card(s) you own from outside the game into the game (such as Living Wish; Spawnsire of Ulamog; Karn, the Great Creator) do not function in Commander.

We’ve had some questions about Karn, the Great Creator’s -2 ability and whether the parts of it that don’t refer to outside the game work. They do, so we added a couple of words to remove any ambiguity from the rule. The goal is to set the default space for outside the game to empty and let playgroups choose amongst themselves if they want to fill it with anything.

 

ADMINISTRATIVE

Expansion of the Commander Advisory Group.

The Commander Advisory Group continues to be the best idea we’ve ever had.  The passionate and insightful advice we’ve gotten from them on a broad range of Commander-related topics has been invaluable.  We’d like more of that.  

To that end, we will be expanding the size of the CAG.  For now, we’re adding four people who represent some of the marvelous voices filling out the Commander chorus.  Jim LaPage (@JimTSF) is well known for his community-building and keen Magic mind.  Another sharp Magic brain, Rachel Weeks (@wachelreeks) is also co-host of The Commander Sphere podcast and graphic artist who has been a frequent guest on the Commander RC Twitch stream.  DeQuan Watson (@powrdragn) is a long-time Magic community advocate and activist who hosts the Color of Magic podcast.  US Army Major Greg Sablan (@gregorysablan), who we’ve been chatting with for more than a year now, represents the vast global military Commander community.  You can everyone’s full bios here.  We’re excited to have them on board and happy to have their help taking the format into the future. 

There’s still work to be done and room for a few more seats on the CAG.  We’re aware that we still have underrepresented demographics and locations.  You can expect our efforts to search for, find, and amplify great voices around the world to continue, both for CAG consideration and to further foster the values of our great Commander community.

https://mtgcommander...january-update/

 

 

Und einmal für (French) Duel Commander:

 

 

JANUARY 2021 RULES - BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE

A little more than two months have passed since the release of Commander Legends, Kaldheim is very (very) close and brings a little more snow to our northern hemisphere winter. The global health crisis continues to affect the organization of physical tournaments, especially Duel Commander. Even though 2021 starts with a slightly better promise than 2020, the world of Magic The Gathering is still affected. Commander Legends shook the decklists a lot, and the way we’re playing our format rarely changed that much in a quarter. According to our observations, a few adjustments were hence needed.

 
Changes:

Rules changes:

 

No changes.

 

Individual card changes:

 

Other changes:

 

No changes.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

 

 

Nächste Announcements:

EDH: Stand jetzt am 19.04.

French Duel: 29.03.

Leviathan: 15.03.

 

 

Diskussionen... ach, ihr haltet euch doch eh nicht dran x.x


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#142 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 16. März 2021 - 01:47

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Leviathan hat ein Banlist- und Rules-Update bekommen:

 

Today is the time to update our bans. We had enough time to review the entire Commander Legends expansion and a little less time for the Kaldheim review that we are constantly watching. We also heard your votes on the principle of the poison rule. We invite you to read this update.

 
Banned as Commander Unbanned as Commander

Announcement Date: March 15, 2021

Date of entry of changes: March 19, 2021

Date of next announcement: June 14, 2021

Current banlist

 
Rules Change:

Additionally, we are returning the "15 Poison Damage Rule" to the original in the Comprehensive Rules. After almost one year this rule has changed, the results

and metagame analysis has shown us that Poison based decks have been excluded of the format, what has never been intended. Therefore, the rule returns to be:

 

"704.5c If a player has ten or more poison counters, that player loses the game."

https://leviathancom...e-15-march-2021


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#143 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 29. März 2021 - 23:26

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French Duel Commander hat ein Update bekommen:

 

Hello, dear Duel Commander players around the world! Along with 2021, many new challenges are coming to us all. We must first of all face the current crisis, which doesn’t really help playing Magic The Gathering (on paper at least). But many new cool things are coming our way, and it seems like we can still play online, all waiting for this now long lasting situation to resolve and fade away. Having observed the evolution of the latest additions to Magic The Gathering and how the metagame situation changes, we decided the following:

 
 
Changes:

Rules changes:

 

  • No changes.

 

Individual card changes:

 

 

Other changes:

 

  • No changes.

 

Don’t forget to check out our Current Lists page for a recap of all the currently banned cards.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update


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#144 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 12. April 2021 - 21:23

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https://mtgcommander...ate-strixhaven/

No Changes im regulären EDH.

Aber zwei Sachen, die sie noch mal klarstellen:

 

1) Any card that has a legendary creature on its front face can be your commander, but in the case of Modal Double-Face Cards, you can cast either side. Both sides are subject to the same Commander Tax; it looks at how many times you have cast the card, regardless of which side you chose to cast. Strixhaven introduces Legendary creatures with sorceries on the back side. For example, you may cast Search for Blex, but it’ll cost two more mana if you cast Blex, Vexing Pest earlier in the game. Perhaps you shouldn’t have lost him the first time!

 

2) Learn cards cannot retrieve Lesson cards when they are cast. We are not interested in introducing sideboards into Commander, and are not comfortable with defining outside the game as all cards you own (it was defined this way years ago and led to a lot of problems and arguments.) However, the alternate mode of discard and draw works fine, as the restriction is limited to the part of the card the looks for a Lesson. Playgroups that want to make Lessons work are encouraged to define a set of rules that works for them.

 



#145 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 17. Juni 2021 - 00:48

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French hatte letztens mal wieder nen Update:

 

No changes.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

Aber sie beobachten wohl eine Karte aus MH2... Welche das wohl sein könnte?...

 

 

Und dann haben wir noch Leviathan, die vor ein paar Tagen auch ein Update hatten:

 

Welcome to the June update of our ban list. In the last three months we had the opportunity to play with cards from Kaldheim and Strixhaven. Following the recent ban of Uro as Commander, Leviathan's meta looks quite diverse and healthy. We continue to monitor and test the cards that received the highest number of votes in the poll you completed for us. Modern Horizons 2 is coming soon and it can maybe "shake" our format. Meanwhile, we invite you to look at the banlist update. ;)

 

Unbanned as Commander:

Announcement Date: June 14, 2021

Date of entry of changes: June 18, 2021

Date of next announcement: September 13, 2021

https://leviathancom...te-14-june-2021



#146 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 12. Juli 2021 - 16:07

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Multiplayer Commander/EDH hat pünktlich zum Montag vor Prerelease eines neuen Standard-Sets auch ein neues Banning:

https://mtgcommander...ly-2021-update/

 

CARDS

Hullbreacher is BANNED.

Hullbreacher

Hullbreacher has been a problem card since its release. Its ostensible defensive use against extra card draw has been dwarfed by offensively combining it with mass-draw effects to easily strip players hands while accelerating the controller. That play pattern isn’t something we want prevalent in casual play (see the Leovold ban), and we have seen a lot of evidence that it is too tempting even there, as it combines with wheels and other popular casual staples. The case against the card was overwhelming. 

There remain a few similar cards that are still permitted, notably Notion Thief and Narset, Parter of Veils. The additional hoops required (an additional color pip for Notion Thief, and sorcery speed for Narset) appear to be keeping them to the appropriate level of play, though we’ll continue to keep an eye on them.

Außerdem gabs ne Klarstellung, wie Dungeons in EDH funktionieren:

 

RULES

Slight modification to Rule 11 to clarify dungeon legality.

Dungeons

Dungeons are a little wonky from a rules perspective since they’re more like emblems than other cards. Once they’re ventured into, they even live in the command zone; they then leave the zone when they’re completed.  They have to be considered cards so that other rules can work, but they’re not otherwise cards in the traditional sense.  They can’t go into your deck; their main function is as a specialized process marker.  To that end, Rule 11 is now worded like this:

Parts of abilities which bring other traditional card(s) you own from outside the game into the game (such as Living Wish; Spawnsire of Ulamog; Karn, the Great Creator) do not function in Commander.

 

Diskussionen wie immer in diesem Thread und nicht hier!


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#147 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 26. Juli 2021 - 22:14

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French Duel Commander zieht die Reißleine und Ragavan verschwindet unter Deck (pun intended)

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

 

Changes:

Rules changes:

 

  • No changes.

 

Individual card changes:

 

 

 

Other changes:

 

  • No changes.


 

 



#148 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 13. September 2021 - 15:22

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RULES

Rule 10 is removed.  Rule 11 is renumbered to Rule 10.

 

CARDS

Worldfire is Unbanned

 

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is Banned

 

 

Rule 10, which stated that commanders were subject to the legend rule, was created in the days when the legend rule was less stable; the rule remained as an artifact of that time.  It’s not a Commander-specific rule, but simply existed as a clarification.  Since it’s redundant, we chose to eliminate it.  This change is administrative only and will have no impact on how games are played.  Rule 11 bumps up to Rule 10.  

 

Worldfire was once banned due to the problematic interaction with floating mana and having access to your Commander. We want to foster a Commander environment where 8- and 9-mana spells are viable and likely to show up in a game, so we evaluate the expensive ones in that context. Unlike Coalition Victory and Biorhythm, which we continue to believe are problematic in that environment, the level of effort needed to make Worldfire effective is sufficient that we suspect it will not be as much of an issue. There are already cheaper ways to do similar things in the format.  We believe the social contract and robust pregame discussions will keep Worldfire out of games in which it doesn’t belong. 

 

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim has been a much-discussed card that is both popular to play with and unpopular to play against. There are many problems with the card, but the greatest is that in the low-to-middle tiers where we focus the banlist, Golos is simply a better choice of leader for all but the most commander-centric decks.  Its presence crushes the kind of diversity in commander choice which we want to promote.  You can drop in Golos and a few 5-color lands into a random deck and get all the ramp and card advantage you would ever want from a commander, with no worries about your mana base.  Golos’ ability effectively reduces the commander tax to one and once you hit seven mana (with Golos assuring that you have WUBRG and helping you get there quickly), you don’t need to do anything for the rest of the game except cast spells for free—something we always want to be careful about.  We’ve talked to the folks in Studio X and they understand the problems created by generically-powerful five-color commanders that don’t have WUBRG in their mana cost.  We don’t expect similar cards to come from them in the future, so a surgical strike now makes sense.  We understand that many players love Golos, so we don’t take this action lightly.  In the end, the health of the format is our primary concern and we find Golos unhealthy.  While Kenrith, the Returned King is a similarly flexible and popular commander for good stuff five color decks, we see it as a clear step down from Golos.

https://mtgcommander...arterly-update/

 

 

 

Immerhin gehts in Leviathan ruhiger zu:

 

Welcome to the September update of Leviathan's ban list. We spent the last three months analyzing and testing cards from Modern Horizons 2 and Forgotten Realms. In addition, we were also able to analyze the impact of our decisions on Leviathan's meta. All this thanks to the ever-growing number of reports you send to us. Based on the above information and data, we concluded that there is no unhealthy and dominant commander or card at the moment.

 

Considering above:

Banlist: No changes

 

Announcement Date: September 13, 2021

Date of entry of changes: September 17, 2021

Date of next announcement: December 13, 2021

https://leviathancom...-september-2021


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#149 Zharesh Geschrieben 28. September 2021 - 12:16

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Da es noch nicht geschrieben wurde, Änderungen für Duel-Commander

Changes:
Rules changes:



No changes.



Individual card changes:



Maddening Hex is now banned.



Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is now banned as a commander only.

Winota, Joiner of Forces is now banned as a commander only.



Other changes:



No changes.

Quelle: https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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#150 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 08. November 2021 - 16:42

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November 2021 Quarterly Update (Crimson Vow)

No changes

 

The back-to-back nature of the two Innistrad releases made for a very short announcement window and not one we want to take action in. We’re pretty happy with where things are and look forward to the influx of cards from Crimson Vow.

Our next announcement will be for the Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty release, on February 7.

https://mtgcommander...te-crimson-vow/



#151 Zharesh Geschrieben 01. Februar 2022 - 12:33

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Im Duelcommander gab es Änderungen:

CHANGES:
RULES CHANGES


No changes.



INDIVIDUAL CARD CHANGES


Kraum, Ludevic's Opus is now banned as a commander only.

Livio, Oathsworn Sentinel is now banned as a commander only.



Teferi, Temporal Archmage is now legal.





EXPERIMENTAL CHANGES


Marath, Will of the Wild is now legal.



OTHER CHANGES


No changes.

Quelle: https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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#152 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 07. Februar 2022 - 18:16

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Administrative
Slight modification in how RC and CAG will structure future quarterly meetings.

Rules
No Changes

Cards
No changes

It’s new year and Commander continues to grow in every context: more players, more games, more content, and more cards. All of those are good things, but each comes with challenges. Each applies pressure to the format and to play groups in various ways. We’ll have some articles coming out this season talking about how you can recognize stress fractures in your group.

There are several cards which are popular topics of concern on the internet (such as Tergrid, God of Fright, Dockside Extortionist, and Thassa’s Oracle), but none of them have reached problematic levels of play in our target demographic (games governed by a strong social contract). The RC feels that all of them can be handled via discussion among the players before a game, and that it’s not too difficult to draw a line between reasonable and unreasonable uses. For groups where no social contract exists this is more challenging, but building trust via communication continues to be the best tool players have to create enjoyable games.

We’ve added a couple of new entries to the FAQ page, clarifying what we think of as the difference between Rule Zero and the social contract of the format, as well as our suggestion for how to handle Commander events at local game stores.

Finally, the RC is making some small internal adjustments to the way we interact with CAG members to ensure everyone on the advisory group has clear channels to express their opinions and relay their observations. The short version is that we’ll be meeting with them formally in smaller groups as we approach the quarterly announcements. It’s nothing drastic, we’re just putting more time into gathering information from trusted sources.

As always, you’re welcome to come over the RC Discord server to chat with us about this update, which has its own thread.

https://mtgcommander...ry-2022-update/

tl;dr
Keine Veränderungen auf der EDH-Banlist.

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#153 Zharesh Geschrieben 14. Februar 2022 - 21:11

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Ich weiß nicht ob es hier hingehört aber es gab wohl eine Regeländerung im Duel Commander

301.5. Casting commanders

301.5a Only a single commander can be cast from the command zone during a game. This is a change from previous rules defined in section 903.8 of the Magic The Gathering Comprehensive Rules.

301.5b There is no such choice to be announced prior the first cast of a commander.

301.5c Once a commander has been cast from the command zone during a game, the other, if any, can’t be cast from the command zone.

301.5d The other commander is still subject to the Magic The Gathering Comprehensive Rules defined in section 903.9 of the Magic The Gathering Comprehensive Rules and can be cast from anywhere else.

Hier nochmal zu Nachlesen
https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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Ich sehe gerade, dass in diesem Zuge sich auch einiges in der BL geändert hat

INDIVIDUAL CARD CHANGES


Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder is now legal.

Jeska, Thrice Reborn is now legal.

Keleth, Sunmane Familiar is now legal.

Kraum, Ludevic's Opus is now legal.

Livio, Oathsworn Sentinel is now legal.

Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist is now legal.

Reyhan, Last of the Abzan is now legal.

Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh is now legal.

Tymna, the Weaver is now legal.



Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful is now banned as a commander only.

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#154 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 18. April 2022 - 19:52

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ADMINISTRATIVE

No Changes

RULES

No Changes

CARDS

No Changes

 

We’re comfortable where the format is at the moment, especially given that it hasn’t been a full quarter since our last update.  As we get back fully into in-person play, we’ll see how or if the landscape changes.  We’ll also see if the significant uptick in cards which make Treasures will bring any deeper consideration regarding Dockside Extortionist

 

Our next scheduled quarterly update is in conjunction with the release of Dominaria United in late summer/early fall.  Between now and then, we look forward to enjoying what new things come to us in Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur’s Gate and Warhammer 40,000 Commander. 

 

As always, we have a channel on the Commander RC Discord server dedicated to a good-faith discussion on format philosophy.  If you have questions or comments, pop on by and join the more than 6,000 friends willing to engage on this and a host of other topics.  See you there!

 

 

Also Dockside Extortionist ein bisschen im Auge behalten. Ansonsten keine Änderungen.

 



#155 Zharesh Geschrieben 30. Mai 2022 - 20:27

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Es gibt neue Bans im Duel Commander:

CHANGES:
RULES CHANGES


No changes.



INDIVIDUAL CARD CHANGES


Shorikai, Genesis Engine is now banned as a commander only.



Bazaar of Baghdad is now banned.

Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer is now banned.

Serra's Sanctum is now banned.





EXPERIMENTAL CHANGES


No changes.



OTHER CHANGES


No changes.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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#156 Zharesh Geschrieben 26. Juli 2022 - 10:13

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Im Duel Commander wurde Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes als Commander gebanned.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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#157 KitsuLeif Geschrieben 29. August 2022 - 17:44

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https://mtgcommander...arterly-update/

No Changes

Aber Dockside Extortionist und Thassa's Oracle werden weiter stark beobachtet.

#158 Zharesh Geschrieben 29. September 2022 - 07:49

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Im Duel Commander ist Yoshimaru, Ever Faithful nun auch als Commander spielbar.
Man beachte, dass dies jedoch experimentel ist und sich somit rel. schnell wieder ändern kann.

https://www.mtgdc.in...stricted-update

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#159 Assimett Geschrieben 29. September 2022 - 08:30

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d.h. der war vorher gebannt? Hab die Erklärung nicht verstanden.


Lieber gut geleckt, als nicht geschleckt

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#160 Zharesh Geschrieben 29. September 2022 - 08:55

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Ja er war vorher als Commander gebanned. Man konnte ihn aber in den 99 spielen.

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